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dragonyphoenix ([personal profile] dragonyphoenix) wrote2013-07-16 04:20 pm
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Angel, Season 5

I've been lent a copy of Season 5 of Angel and am enjoying it more than I expected. One thing I'm not sure of though. If Angel and Spike had gotten to that Guardian guy, the one at the hole in the world, earlier, would they have been able to save Fred?

Wesley was upset with Gunn for not sharing info, and I can see Wes' point, but I'm not sure it would have made any difference by then.
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[identity profile] velvetwhip.livejournal.com 2013-07-16 08:50 pm (UTC)(link)
So heartbreaking... poor Fred!


Gabrielle

[identity profile] starkat75.livejournal.com 2013-07-16 08:52 pm (UTC)(link)
Sad as it is, but they would have never been able to save Fred's life. She was infected and nothing would have helped.
The essence of the demon was eating her up until there wasn't anything of Fred left.
It was like Illyria said later: Fred's soul was shred into pieces when Illyria was re-born in Fred's body.
But deep in Illyria there are still some of these pieces left and so she is able to immitate Fred when her parents arrived in L.A.
And finally but only in the moment of Wesley's dead Illyria understands the meaning of true love.

[identity profile] spikesjojo.livejournal.com 2013-07-17 02:20 am (UTC)(link)
It's one of those plot points that don't make a lot of sense - IMHO. If they had taken Fred to the Well then Drogyn could have sucked out Illyria without any issues. If Gunn had let them know that he signed the papers they might have been able to track back what had happened and take her to the well. As it is, it was after the fact which was a factor in Illyria.

Actually, if Gunn had been honest about his upgrade and signing the paper the entire incident wouldn't have happened.
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