Um not to give any spoilers but - you really won't see Giles again except for a very brief scene in the last chapter (which is really funny though); but you do have another scene of Buffy pouring out the Giles-hate near the end.
And it's weird because I can see why Buffy would but I'm not sure that's in character for her, any more than her falling to her knees and begging Spike's forgiveness is. But fanfic is fanfic, it's always a way of "correcting" canon, isn't it? Or filling it in, or whatnot.
What's interesting is conversely Heather gives Xander a pass - or rather, Heather likes his character, even though he's been responsible for dumping a lot of shit on Buffy. There's a short fic of her's, post-Showtime, that's entirely Xander giving a long speech about how he never got until now what Buffy went through, and how they tended to want her to be what they wanted, etc. Which is all true, and Buffy tears up and it's not OOC; after Selfless Xander becomes more supportive, less judgmental of Buffy. but - long speeches like that without the actor delivering them are...long. And if that had really happened on the show, then the events of EP would only be that much more painful.
But god I just want to run and give Buffy a big hug anyway, so...not objective myself.
I think you'll really like the scene with the character I'm referring to and yes, Figg is well-written. I was thinking also of Cathy, Xander's new girlfriend (it doesn't spoil anything to mention her); she could be a Mary-Sue but just veers to this side of it. (ie she isn't entirely fearless and perfect, she gets a little freaked by things that would reasonably freak out a normal person.)
Good OC's are another one of my benchmarks for good fanfiction btw.
You see unexplained character dislike in fanfiction.
And of every single character. I think that Spuffy fiction on the whole is more respectful or fond of Angel (a lot of Spuffy writers are also Spangel shippers, and I'm starting to lean that way myself); whereas I've run into Bangel fans who HATE Spike. But a lot of Spuffy fans seem to hate Buffy, there are people who hate Spike and love the SG or the other way around, etc etc.
I don't think I've seen Lit Gal's work? But I could be wrong (my memory sucks, basically), but I have seen other writers tear into Willow. I get frustrated with how some of her actions seem minimized (as a human she should go to jail for killing a man as Faith did, and Buffy tried to do and Jonathan was ready to, right? Instead she goes to England - she's Joss' favorite character ergo, "special snowflake".)
But I can't go along with hatefests either - I do understand where all these characters are coming from FOR THE MOST PART. (Not the same as condoning.) I read Willow's resurrecting Buffy as genuine concern - she really believed Buffy's soul was in a Hell dimension, and as has been the case from S1 on, she has a "hey I can fix this!" mindset. She doesn't yet have a moral code that she's worked out for herself.
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Date: 2013-10-11 01:17 pm (UTC)And it's weird because I can see why Buffy would but I'm not sure that's in character for her, any more than her falling to her knees and begging Spike's forgiveness is. But fanfic is fanfic, it's always a way of "correcting" canon, isn't it? Or filling it in, or whatnot.
What's interesting is conversely Heather gives Xander a pass - or rather, Heather likes his character, even though he's been responsible for dumping a lot of shit on Buffy. There's a short fic of her's, post-Showtime, that's entirely Xander giving a long speech about how he never got until now what Buffy went through, and how they tended to want her to be what they wanted, etc. Which is all true, and Buffy tears up and it's not OOC; after Selfless Xander becomes more supportive, less judgmental of Buffy. but - long speeches like that without the actor delivering them are...long. And if that had really happened on the show, then the events of EP would only be that much more painful.
But god I just want to run and give Buffy a big hug anyway, so...not objective myself.
I think you'll really like the scene with the character I'm referring to and yes, Figg is well-written. I was thinking also of Cathy, Xander's new girlfriend (it doesn't spoil anything to mention her); she could be a Mary-Sue but just veers to this side of it. (ie she isn't entirely fearless and perfect, she gets a little freaked by things that would reasonably freak out a normal person.)
Good OC's are another one of my benchmarks for good fanfiction btw.
You see unexplained character dislike in fanfiction.
And of every single character. I think that Spuffy fiction on the whole is more respectful or fond of Angel (a lot of Spuffy writers are also Spangel shippers, and I'm starting to lean that way myself); whereas I've run into Bangel fans who HATE Spike. But a lot of Spuffy fans seem to hate Buffy, there are people who hate Spike and love the SG or the other way around, etc etc.
I don't think I've seen Lit Gal's work? But I could be wrong (my memory sucks, basically), but I have seen other writers tear into Willow. I get frustrated with how some of her actions seem minimized (as a human she should go to jail for killing a man as Faith did, and Buffy tried to do and Jonathan was ready to, right? Instead she goes to England - she's Joss' favorite character ergo, "special snowflake".)
But I can't go along with hatefests either - I do understand where all these characters are coming from FOR THE MOST PART. (Not the same as condoning.) I read Willow's resurrecting Buffy as genuine concern - she really believed Buffy's soul was in a Hell dimension, and as has been the case from S1 on, she has a "hey I can fix this!" mindset. She doesn't yet have a moral code that she's worked out for herself.