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In the early 90s I caught part of a documentary about women workers during WWII. To this day I remember one woman’s regret, that she never got to weld an iron gate.

About that time, I saw A League of Their Own with two friends. I remember because they were bemoaning that you didn’t see movies about women losing out on gains they’d made during the war once the men came back. I wanted to bring up the documentary but they were talking too fast back and forth and the topic shifted on before I had a chance. Perhaps that’s why I remembered it.

So, I found it recently and watched the whole: The Life and Times of Rosie the Riveter. I had to interlibrary loan it because even Netflix doesn’t carry it.

There were shorts of the time, newsletts I guess, saying that women were going to work in factories to help the war effort. The women told a different story. One got a letter from a friend telling her she could make more in a day at the factories, in California, than she could in a week back home. She told another woman who said, “I’m leaving at six this evening. You can come if you want.”
Also, women, being given less money than the men, went through the union to get their pay raised. This was when the white women found out the black women were making 5 cents less per hour.
And of course at the end of the war these women lost their jobs. There were shorts beforehand, showing women workers saying they’d give up their jobs once the war was over. The women interviewed didn’t want to lose those jobs. One, a widow, had thought ahead and had taken every welding class they offered. She knew the jobs would be given back to men but thought if she knew enough she could keep one. No such luck. At an interview she was told she’d be hired immediately if she were a man but as a woman she was out of luck.
It was an excellent documentary and it left me wondering. So these women lost their jobs in the mid-40s. About thirty years later, their daughters start a new wave of feminism. How much of that drive for equality comes from the experience of their mothers?

Date: 2016-04-07 05:42 am (UTC)
maramcreates: Leliana (Dragon Age; DAI; playful) (Default)
From: [personal profile] maramcreates
I suspect (i.e., I have not actively researched this): There's this generational burst in feminist waves that corresponds to the time-frame you're pointing out. Teens/20s, the 40s, the 60s/70s, the 90s/Oughts. It's not exact, of course, but I think it's more of a pendulum thing (swings conservative some decades, liberal in others) and very reactionary. That doesn't mean that there wasn't a strong undercurrent of feminist thinking during the lull years, only that it wasn't at the forefront of national discourse.

:) It is totally worth investigating though!

Date: 2016-04-07 02:00 pm (UTC)
maramcreates: Leliana (Dragon Age; DAI; playful) (Default)
From: [personal profile] maramcreates
Since you brought up Rosie the Riviter, there's a strong possibility (my assertion) that she was modeled on this woman (Feb. 1943; 'Operating a hand drill at Vultee-Nashville, woman is working on a "Vengeance" dive bomber, Tennessee'; Library of Congress digital archive)

Date: 2016-04-08 03:31 am (UTC)
maramcreates: Leliana (Dragon Age; DAI; attentive) (Leliana_attentive)
From: [personal profile] maramcreates
I was looking for the article that hinted at it, but was having a hard time finding it. So, I decided to look up the origins of the "We Can Do It!" poster, and found that it predates the photo I linked (1942 rather than post-Feb.1943), so the article was probably mistaken or bogus :(.

Oh well...it would have been interesting if Rosie was modeled after a woman of color (a citation on wikipedia's page suggests a Canadian woman actually).

Date: 2016-04-07 11:20 pm (UTC)
untonuggan: Agent Carter, in white blouse, looking determined (agent carter determined)
From: [personal profile] untonuggan
the first season is a little...intense, but you might be interested in The Bletchley Circle if you haven't seen it? The women in the series were codebreakers at bletchley park, but *can't tell anyone about it* because of the Official Secrets Act. So they just have to tell everyone -- including their husbands, if married -- that they were a secretary or whatever the cover story is during the war. Anyway, the series is about a murder investigation because one is suuuuper bored as a housewife and notices a pattern. But, uh, it's kind of gorey and I had to skip parts of the first season and go to season 2. Your personal squicks may vary.

Also, obviously, Agent Carter. (similar deal, only marvel universe)

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