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I've been thinking ways for Anya and Snape to meet. Voldemort as the big bad of BtVS season 7. The Council, as Muggles threatened by the wizarding war, beg Buffy to come to England and take out Voldemort. Of course the Scoobies go with.

Date: 2015-12-03 07:06 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] rbfvid.livejournal.com
...and Xander paying for all their plane tickets, given that he is the only one with a job :P (Actually, I can see how Anya emotionally blackmails him into buying at least ticket for her...))

Date: 2015-12-03 07:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dragonyphoenix.livejournal.com
*laughs* I'm still wondering how we'd get Anya to leave the shop.

Date: 2015-12-03 08:21 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] rbfvid.livejournal.com
There was no shop at that moment, Willow destroyed it (remeber, how during "Same Time, Same Place" Anya was still trying to clear the rubble).

Date: 2015-12-03 08:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dragonyphoenix.livejournal.com
Oh, yeah. For some reason I was thinking Willow destroyed the shop in season 7 but, no, that was season 6. Great!

Date: 2015-12-03 08:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] red-satin-doll.livejournal.com
I've been following your posts on the project with some interest - I haven't commented because I was in and out of town when all of this was going down but - is the graphics portion back on again or is that still scrapped? Let me know.

I'm still sort of scratching my head over the whole thing btw. given that the original story was a fan fiction, and part of a remix series to begin with I don't see how....only TPTB have the ability (legal and otherwise) to forbid...you know what? Never mind. The original author's stance makes no sense whatsoever as far as I am concerned.

If we want to have a legitimate way of preventing remixes - write original fiction and then we're covered by copyright law. Otherwise, it's all transformative works.

Date: 2015-12-03 09:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dragonyphoenix.livejournal.com
If you're still willing to, I'd love it if you'd make the graphics. I wasn't sure, with all the weird stuff going on with the original author, if you'd still want to and didn't want to put you into the uncomfortable position of having to decline.

I also don't get it. Pretty much any playing with the story is okay except remixes, oh but some remixes are fine. That totally does not make sense to me, but then if someone wanted to remix one of my stories I'd be jumping up and down with glee.

The story needs to be posted on Saturday for the CoF remix and I get that's a bit close. However, I was figuring that for AO3 I'd post a scene (letter) a day. These two that I want images for are way down near the end of the story and it's 20 some odd pages long so you'd have more than enough time to work on the images.
Edited Date: 2015-12-03 09:09 pm (UTC)

Date: 2015-12-05 05:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] red-satin-doll.livejournal.com
This entire kerfuffle did inspire me to actually look up the text of US Copyright law, just for the hell of it. Not that that really has any bearing here anyway.

I think if the OP doesn't want their story to be played with, then forbid all remixes. You can't allow it in some instances and not others and oh, btw, the OP does realize that their fan fiction is in essence a "remix" of the original works?

Oh and if you're not sure what I would feel comfortable with, next time do NOT hesitate to ask me, hon. I'll tell you straight up either way.
Edited Date: 2015-12-05 05:59 pm (UTC)

Date: 2015-12-05 06:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dragonyphoenix.livejournal.com
Well, that's certainly what caused the problem in the first place. It never occurred to me that a remix wouldn't be okay on a story she'd already allowed to be remixed.

if you're not sure what I would feel comfortable with, next time do NOT hesitate to ask me, hon. I'll tell you straight up either way. I'll try to keep that in mind, but that wasn't all that was going on. I was feeling uncertain whether I would go through and post the story. I probably was not actually uncertain, but I was feeling that way.

Date: 2015-12-05 06:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] red-satin-doll.livejournal.com
Well, that's certainly what caused the problem in the first place. It never occurred to me that a remix wouldn't be okay on a story she'd already allowed to be remixed.

And just to clarify again - you were remixing the original story or remixing the remix?

Date: 2015-12-05 07:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dragonyphoenix.livejournal.com
I was remixing the remix.

Date: 2015-12-05 08:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] red-satin-doll.livejournal.com
Yeah, and....this is a big ole headscratcher as far as I am concerned. Because once a story has been remixed once, there are elements original to the remix and if anybody gets to say "please don't remix again" it should be the remix author, not the OP, right? (Believe it or not, copyright law appears to protect original story elements in a collaborative work or work based on the works of another artist, so the Remix Author has the right to say, "I'm ok with my story being remixed" as far as I can see, even from a legal standpoint. Which is neither here nor there._

But - you've bent over backwards to honor the OP's request insofar as possible without scrapping your hard work entirely, and that was very decent of you to do so. (I don't see that the other person did the same on their end. And what of the author you were actually remixing, have they been cut out of the conversation entirely?

Date: 2015-12-05 09:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dragonyphoenix.livejournal.com
Actually sroni, the author I'm remixing, has been very helpful. She went through her story to identify which elements came from the original series and which were new with her.

Sroni herself did not chime in about the remixing although her dad, aadler, did.

Date: 2015-12-06 07:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] red-satin-doll.livejournal.com
I saw aadler's post and - there are points I disagree on but I'm not in this community anyway and good on him for admitting his mistake.

Date: 2015-12-06 01:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dragonyphoenix.livejournal.com
I certainly don't agree he's mostly at fault. I had just as much opportunity, if not more, to stop and think "Hmmm, perhaps I should check with the original author first." But that's me. Charging in where angels fear to tread.

Date: 2015-12-06 03:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] red-satin-doll.livejournal.com
And I disagree with your disagreement. He'd running the show, it's up to him to make sure that everyone wants to play. As an author coming into a comm, I would have assumed that was done by the mods.

Date: 2015-12-06 05:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dragonyphoenix.livejournal.com
Ah, I see your point, but I think each of us had a responsibility to think of the original author. That neither of us did speaks to the fact that the original author's policy is unusual and unexpected.

Date: 2015-12-09 10:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] red-satin-doll.livejournal.com
the original author's policy is unusual and unexpected

On that we can agree.

Date: 2015-12-10 01:25 am (UTC)

Date: 2015-12-03 08:39 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] kikimay
*slams tables*
*screams*

SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY!!!1!11

Please, do let Anya and Snape meet. It would be comedy gold. The only scenario it comes to my mind is: Anyanka in a parallel dimension (Like the shrimp one!)

Basically Hogwarts exists but in a parallel universe. And Anyanka travels a lot.

Pls, let this happen. *puppy eyes*

Date: 2015-12-03 09:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dragonyphoenix.livejournal.com
There will be a story although not exactly this one. In the meantime, here (http://sroni.livejournal.com/134116.html) and here (http://archiveofourown.org/series/894) are some stories to tide you over.

Date: 2015-12-03 09:16 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] kikimay
OMG OTHER PEOPLE WROTE ROMANCE ABOUT SNAPE AND ANYA!!111!! *keeps screaming*

Honestly, I wasn't expecting that!

Date: 2015-12-03 09:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dragonyphoenix.livejournal.com
Glad I could make your day.

Date: 2015-12-03 09:41 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] kikimay
Although I can't see a love story between them (Or, if we have to go with the romance, please something absolutely ridiculus!)

Thanks!

Date: 2015-12-04 01:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dragonyphoenix.livejournal.com
Sorry, but the story's already written.

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